February 6, 2006

  • The Annies


    The Annies Awards night was an interesting experience and we are honored to have participated in this year’s grand event.

    Tom Kenny was hilarious as the MC, and it was a hoot to see William Shatner (in miniature, from where we were sitting) amongst other animation legends. If we hadn’t rushed to the banquet afterwards to avoid the long queues,  we might’ve seeked out Shatner for his autograph…

    Some thoughts and questions that spring to mind, and this is purely subjective, of course.

    Would it be fairer if …

    … separate voting categories were assigned to 2D and 3D shows? (2D = hand-drawn/traditional/flash, 3D = CG/stop motion) How does one compare a music video like Bastard Wants to Hit Me with a live-action/CG commercial like GE “Tower” in the “Best Animated Commercial” category? The two nominations seem worlds apart. And in the “Best Animated Feature” category, how does one choose between a Miyazaki and an Aardman?

    But having said this… If The Annies were to split things up into 2D/3D it might lessen the magnitude of the “Best Animated Feature” or “Best TV Production” awards. e.g., if Wallace & Gromit got best 3D Picture, that doesn’t mean they were the BEST overall animated film.

    … separate voting categories were assigned to demographic-related TV productions? There were over 60 submissions for the “Best TV Production” category…ranging from Saturday morning kids’ fare, to pre-school, adult comedies, and primetime family sitcoms. And to complicate the judging process, there was 2D, 3D, rotoscoping, you name it.

    In any Annie Awards, it seems unlikely that a well-made ‘movement-limited’ CG preschool show (regardless of whether we would personally watch it) would ever get a chance of being nominated next to a cartoony “6-11 Action” hit. Would it be fairer if Preschool and Adult animation had their own voting categories? How does one nominate or vote for “Best Writing in a TV Production” knowing that writers for adult shows abide by different limitations imposed on writers for kid shows?

    … there was a “Best Foreign Animation” category? 99% of the submissions appear to be American productions. It would be great to see more international productions added to the mix, but not only this, does it not seem fair to have American features compete with Japanese features given that these are two very culturally/philosophically different storytelling traditions? (Hmmm… would Wallace & Gromit be considered a foreign feature?)

    OK. Will get off soapbox now. Thanks to ASIFA for an enlightening and inspiring experience!

Comments (9)

  • Some interesting and valid points you guys bring up. Here’s a few of mine. I personally don’t think it’s right to divide up features into 2D/3D. Filmmaking is filmmaking and the standards of good storytelling, characterization and animation are consistent between both practices. However, I do agree that judging TV shows and writing should be separated into two, because it is unfairly weighted towards honoring ‘adult’ productions. Preschool and children’s animation are at an unfair disadvantage because voters aren’t considering those shows on the merits of who they’re targeted towards, and judging them against THE SIMPSONS and CLONE WARS.I think a Foreign Animation category isn’t likely because the Annies are largely an industry award for the LA community. They try to make an outward show of inclusiveness, but it’s never been anything more than a pat on the back for LA folks. If it was truly about honoring the best worldwide, a film like MIND GAME should have been nominated many times over. But they’ll just arbitrarily thrown in the latest Miyazaki film to pretend they pay attention to foreign films and call it day.I’d also suggest getting rid of the Animated Shorts category. I’ve been on the shorts committee a couple times, and that category is very problematic. The entries you have to choose from are 1/100th, if that, of what festivals like Annecy or Ottawa receive. You’re basically picking nominees from an extremely limited pool of entrants. Of course, the committee is free to suggest films for nomination that weren’t entered, but when so many potential films are missing, it’s not even worth trying. But I think it really calls into question the legitimacy of the award when you’re picking from such a limited pool of films. I also think film titles/music videos don’t belong in commercial/short films categories. How do you judge a 3-minute music video against a 30-second commercial. I remember we had a major problem with film titles one year. And if you’re going to have Laika’s Bastard Wants to Hit Me, why not have other music videos in the category? Last year was a pinnacle year for music videos. Again, it boils down to picking from what’s entered, rather than truly trying to honor the best animated shorts, commercials, etc.My final point is that I wish only people who were qualified could vote in certain artistic categories. For example, only animators voting for animation, etc. I find it hard to believe that this year, Wallace and Gromit could sweep every feature award, and last year The Incredibles could sweep every feature award. They’re good films but this is ridiculous. I have the feeling that people who don’t really understand what they’re voting on simply choose the film they like most and vote for that film in every category. I didn’t vote this year, but in the past I’ve only voted in categories where I’d examined the nominees and understood what I was voting on. I get the sense that a lot of people aren’t doing that. There’s no perfect nomination/voting process for awards. I’ve been to a lot of the Oscar’s Foreign Film selection screenings, and I think their nominee selection process is flawed as well. The very idea of selecting a “best” piece of art is a flawed concept so it’s hardly a surprise that the process for achieving that would be flawed as well.Wow, didn’t mean to type that much. Sorry.Amid

  • Thanks Amid, you make great points.
    Yes, trying to judge the TV category which featured not only Clone Wars and The Simpsons, but also such extremes as Squidbillies and Little Einsteins, was really problematic.
    I agree with your final point.  It does seem like it becomes a popularity poll in the artistic categories.  We were really surprised that anyone could differentiate Claire Billet’s animation in Wallace & Gromit enough to give her work the ‘Best Character Animation’ award.

  • Kool blog. I’m subbin’. Not sure if I’ll understand all this, but I’ll try! Seems super interesting.

  • As a member of the Board of Directors, and a member of the committee that revamped the Annies 15 years ago, I can answer your questions…Would it be fairer to split CG/drawn?ASIFA-Hollywood is dedicated to promoting excellence in animation. It doesn’t matter if it’s CG/Flash/drawn/clay/pixilation or any other type or combination of animation techniques… They’re all on an equal playing field. This year a clay film won best picture (Wallace & Grommett). Last year it was a CG film (The Incredibles). The year before that was an Anime film (Spirited Away). The voting membership casts its ballots for excellence. The technique doesn’t matter.Separate demographic divisions for TV?This has been tried. Several years ago, we divided TV into Animation For Children and TV Animation. It didn’t work out well. It was difficult to draw the lines. (Where do you put Samurai Jack?) The Children’s Programming category wasn’t well supported by entries, so we ended up merging them back together again.Foreign Animation?ASIFA-Hollywood is just one chapter of The International Animated Film Society. Each chapter represents its own geographic area, and many of them have their own competitions. The Annies are open to any production, whether it’s local or overseas. But the submissions are largely from US based studios though. There’s noone excluding foreign productions. They just aren’t being submitted for consideration.By the way, Amid mentions the shorts category… It’s a vital link between the commercial category and the television production. The Annie categories are loosely based on running times. If the shorts were eliminated, that would make it impossible to submit anything with a running length between a commercial and a half hour show for an award. The category isn’t intended to be the same sort of award as the festivals. The festivals represent a different group of filmmakers and serve a completely different purpose. This year, the number of shorts submitted was pretty big. The committee had its hands full reviewing them all.As for the membership being qualified to vote… more than 80% of ASIFA-Hollywood’s membership are professionals. And having been privvy to the counting of the ballots in the past, I can tell you that the majority of the ballots are not entirely filled out. People vote what they know. It’s important to remember that all of the submitted films are screened for ASIFA-Hollywood members during the year and during balloting time, and this year all of the paper entries were available for members to review before voting too. It’s the responsibility of the membership to cast educated votes. I have had no indication that they aren’t doing that.One of the safeguards in the Annie selection process is the instructions given the nominating committees… They are told that they are to judge solely by merit, and that every nominee on their list should be worthy of winning the award. They aren’t just picking the five best entries… they are selecting however many entries they feel are worthy. In the past, we have had categories with only one or two nominations. This guarantees that whatever happens in the voting, the winner is still worthy of winning.The rules of the Annies are discussed and decided on at a meeting of a special committee of the Board of Directors each year. This meeting is open to ASIFA-Hollywood members to address the committee and make suggestions for improvements. Every year, every rule is evaluated and a decision is made whether to keep it the same or change it. The Annies evolve as the animation community evolves. Lots of people talk about “wouldas” and “shouldas”, but the ones who show up for that meeting are the ones who actually make a difference.Hope this helpsStephen WorthDirectorASIFA-Hollywood

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  • Thanks Stephen.  As relative newcomers to the LA Animation industry, this was the first time we had witnessed the awards and been able to take part in the voting.
    As a director of ASIFA we respect your comments and understand that issues are continually being brought up and evaluated.  This year we will definitely take your advice and attend the special commitee meeting that discusses the rules.

  • You should definitely stop by the ASIFA-Hollywood Animation Archive (www.animationarchive.org) too. We have an exhibit up right now that includes Grim Natwick’s original character designs for Betty Boop and Les Clark’s animation desk- the one he animated Steamboat Willie and Snow White on. The original hand drawn storyboard to the Untamed World episode of Ren & Stimpy is available to see, and there are lots of rare cartoons to watch. Well worth a visit. We’re open Tuesdays and Thursdays from 1pm to 9pm. The Archive is located at 2114 Burbank Bl, a few blocks east of Buena Vista.See yaSteve

  • Thanks Steve, will do!

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